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Mike[_37_]
January 27th 12, 12:02 AM
Things are getting desperate here on RAS!

January 27th 12, 02:50 AM
On Jan 26, 7:02*pm, Mike > wrote:
> Things are getting desperate here on RAS!

I'll bite.
I LOVE MY 2-33.
And my 1-26.
Real men don't do silver badges in glass!
Take That!
UH

Tony[_5_]
January 27th 12, 02:52 AM
On Jan 26, 8:50*pm, wrote:
> On Jan 26, 7:02*pm, Mike > wrote:
>
> > Things are getting desperate here on RAS!
>
> I'll bite.
> I LOVE MY 2-33.
> And my 1-26.
> Real men don't do silver badges in glass!
> Take That!
> UH

and the PW-5 is beautiful (actually I think they're kind of cute in
their own special way)

JS
January 27th 12, 03:36 AM
Not too desperate here.
Flew XC in thermals 9 days in a row. 2 new-to-me gliders, too.
Jim

aerodyne
January 27th 12, 05:22 AM
Hey - I forgot it's winter - where are all the trailer and battery
discussions?

Mike[_37_]
January 27th 12, 05:22 AM
On Jan 26, 8:36*pm, JS > wrote:
> Not too desperate here.
> Flew XC in thermals 9 days in a row. 2 new-to-me gliders, too.
> Jim

Yeah, but were you using Power Flarm?

JS
January 27th 12, 07:02 AM
On Jan 26, 9:22 pm, Mike > wrote:

> Yeah, but were you using Power Flarm?

Only the Mini Oz with either the "Swiss-Bat V3" or the Altair (running
XCSoar) displays.
Used the log from one to upload a flight, as the Cambridge 20 is no
longer valid on OLC.
Jim

Berry[_2_]
January 27th 12, 04:35 PM
In article
>,
Tony > wrote:

> On Jan 26, 8:50*pm, wrote:
> > On Jan 26, 7:02*pm, Mike > wrote:
> >
> > > Things are getting desperate here on RAS!
> >
> > I'll bite.
> > I LOVE MY 2-33.
> > And my 1-26.
> > Real men don't do silver badges in glass!
> > Take That!
> > UH
>
> and the PW-5 is beautiful (actually I think they're kind of cute in
> their own special way)

Yeah, I don't understand why the PW is considered ugly. They are not to
my taste, but I don't find them repulsive.

Still a crying shame that the World Class design competition turned out
the way that it did. Some of the design requirements were silly, in
hindsight. Had to be able to be kit built, short wings, fixed gear. Too
bad the process precluded the likes of the LS-4 or even some out of
production ship like the LS-1f, ASW-19, or Glasflugel Hornet.

Now, I know there is a lot of affection for the LS-4. But my pick would
have been the Hornet. Beautiful, roomy, robust structure, easy to
assemble, Glasflugel. What more would one want? Yes, the LS-4 is SO easy
to fly and pleasant, but the handling just feels sort of dead to me. A
Glasflugel ship talks to it's pilot in a thermal. The Hornet and
Mosquito not quite so vociferously as the Libelles, but the Glasflugel
liveliness is still there in those types.

So there you have it, the LS-4 is crap, Glasflugel's rule!

Huh? What's that? My meds? Ah, no, not this morning...

T8
January 27th 12, 09:19 PM
On Jan 26, 9:50*pm, wrote:
> On Jan 26, 7:02*pm, Mike > wrote:
>
> > Things are getting desperate here on RAS!
>
> I'll bite.
> I LOVE MY 2-33.
> And my 1-26.
> Real men don't do silver badges in glass!
> Take That!
> UH

I'll raise you.

I like low passes.

-T8

Dave Nadler
January 27th 12, 10:09 PM
You at Keepit ? Say Hi to the folks for me,
wish I was there...
See ya, Dave "YO electric"
(and sometimes "GO twin-jet")

Gary[_5_]
January 28th 12, 12:20 AM
On Jan 26, 9:50*pm, wrote:
> On Jan 26, 7:02*pm, Mike > wrote:
>
> > Things are getting desperate here on RAS!
>
> I'll bite.
> I LOVE MY 2-33.
> And my 1-26.
> Real men don't do silver badges in glass!
> Take That!
> UH

Well, Uncle Hank! I did my silver in good ol' #017.....yellow at that,
full of bondo and duct tape on the rudder fabric!

Gary GB

Gary[_5_]
January 28th 12, 12:25 AM
On Jan 26, 9:52*pm, Tony > wrote:
> On Jan 26, 8:50*pm, wrote:
>
> > On Jan 26, 7:02*pm, Mike > wrote:
>
> > > Things are getting desperate here on RAS!
>
> > I'll bite.
> > I LOVE MY 2-33.
> > And my 1-26.
> > Real men don't do silver badges in glass!
> > Take That!
> > UH
>
> and the PW-5 is beautiful (actually I think they're kind of cute in
> their own special way)

From the nose to the trailing edge, they sorta look like a normal
sailplane.......from there back, just strange. The Baby Bowlus pulled
off that look and it looked "right"; the PW-5? Nope.

Gary GB

Tim[_2_]
January 28th 12, 02:01 AM
On Jan 26, 6:02*pm, Mike > wrote:
> Things are getting desperate here on RAS!

Two Words: Club Class!

anyone biting???

EY

January 28th 12, 04:05 AM
On Jan 27, 11:35*am, Berry > wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
> *Tony > wrote:
> > On Jan 26, 8:50*pm, wrote:
> > > On Jan 26, 7:02*pm, Mike > wrote:
>
> > > > Things are getting desperate here on RAS!
>
> > > I'll bite.
> > > I LOVE MY 2-33.
> > > And my 1-26.
> > > Real men don't do silver badges in glass!
> > > Take That!
> > > UH
>
> > and the PW-5 is beautiful (actually I think they're kind of cute in
> > their own special way)
>
> Yeah, I don't understand why the PW is considered ugly. They are not to
> my taste, but I don't find them repulsive.
>
> Still a crying shame that the World Class design competition turned out
> the way that it did. Some of the design requirements were silly, in
> hindsight. Had to be able to be kit built, short wings, fixed gear. Too
> bad the process precluded the likes of the LS-4 or even some out of
> production ship like the LS-1f, ASW-19, or Glasflugel Hornet.
>
> Now, I know there is a lot of affection for the LS-4. But my pick would
> have been the Hornet. Beautiful, roomy, robust structure, easy to
> assemble, Glasflugel. What more would one want? Yes, the LS-4 is SO easy
> to fly and pleasant, but the handling just feels sort of dead to me. A
> Glasflugel ship talks to it's pilot in a thermal. The Hornet and
> Mosquito not quite so vociferously as the Libelles, but the Glasflugel
> liveliness is still there in those types.
>
> So there you have it, the LS-4 is crap, Glasflugel's rule!
>
> Huh? What's that? My meds? Ah, no, not this morning...
Personally, I thought the Cygnet P1C was a sharp looking sailplane and
may have attracted more interest to the WGC.

Berry[_2_]
January 30th 12, 03:11 PM
In article
>,
wrote:

> On Jan 27, 11:35*am, Berry > wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> > *Tony > wrote:
> > > On Jan 26, 8:50*pm, wrote:
> > > > On Jan 26, 7:02*pm, Mike > wrote:
> >
> > > > > Things are getting desperate here on RAS!
> >
> > > > I'll bite.
> > > > I LOVE MY 2-33.
> > > > And my 1-26.
> > > > Real men don't do silver badges in glass!
> > > > Take That!
> > > > UH
> >
> > > and the PW-5 is beautiful (actually I think they're kind of cute in
> > > their own special way)
> >
> > Yeah, I don't understand why the PW is considered ugly. They are not to
> > my taste, but I don't find them repulsive.
> >
> > Still a crying shame that the World Class design competition turned out
> > the way that it did. Some of the design requirements were silly, in
> > hindsight. Had to be able to be kit built, short wings, fixed gear. Too
> > bad the process precluded the likes of the LS-4 or even some out of
> > production ship like the LS-1f, ASW-19, or Glasflugel Hornet.
> >
> > Now, I know there is a lot of affection for the LS-4. But my pick would
> > have been the Hornet. Beautiful, roomy, robust structure, easy to
> > assemble, Glasflugel. What more would one want? Yes, the LS-4 is SO easy
> > to fly and pleasant, but the handling just feels sort of dead to me. A
> > Glasflugel ship talks to it's pilot in a thermal. The Hornet and
> > Mosquito not quite so vociferously as the Libelles, but the Glasflugel
> > liveliness is still there in those types.
> >
> > So there you have it, the LS-4 is crap, Glasflugel's rule!
> >
> > Huh? What's that? My meds? Ah, no, not this morning...
> Personally, I thought the Cygnet P1C was a sharp looking sailplane and
> may have attracted more interest to the WGC.

I spent a day with the Roberts "working" on the Cygnet. I mostly got in
their way and broke two bandsaw blades to top it off! The Cygnet was an
interesting design, but ended up too heavy as I recall. It had a
fiberglass fuselage shell, with an aluminum internal structure. I don't
remember how the wings were built.

I wonder where the Cygnet prototype has gone? Did it ever fly after the
World Class competition?

Dan Marotta
January 31st 12, 01:40 AM
I spent the day getting my Trig TT22 installation inspected, approved, and
logged. Then I took my LAK apart and put it in the trailer. Tomorrow, I'll
drag it down to ABQ and have it certified. Better than doing it in the
summer...


"Berry" > wrote in message
...
> In article
> >,
> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 27, 11:35 am, Berry > wrote:
>> > In article
>> > >,
>> >
>> > Tony > wrote:
>> > > On Jan 26, 8:50 pm, wrote:
>> > > > On Jan 26, 7:02 pm, Mike > wrote:
>> >
>> > > > > Things are getting desperate here on RAS!
>> >
>> > > > I'll bite.
>> > > > I LOVE MY 2-33.
>> > > > And my 1-26.
>> > > > Real men don't do silver badges in glass!
>> > > > Take That!
>> > > > UH
>> >
>> > > and the PW-5 is beautiful (actually I think they're kind of cute in
>> > > their own special way)
>> >
>> > Yeah, I don't understand why the PW is considered ugly. They are not to
>> > my taste, but I don't find them repulsive.
>> >
>> > Still a crying shame that the World Class design competition turned out
>> > the way that it did. Some of the design requirements were silly, in
>> > hindsight. Had to be able to be kit built, short wings, fixed gear. Too
>> > bad the process precluded the likes of the LS-4 or even some out of
>> > production ship like the LS-1f, ASW-19, or Glasflugel Hornet.
>> >
>> > Now, I know there is a lot of affection for the LS-4. But my pick would
>> > have been the Hornet. Beautiful, roomy, robust structure, easy to
>> > assemble, Glasflugel. What more would one want? Yes, the LS-4 is SO
>> > easy
>> > to fly and pleasant, but the handling just feels sort of dead to me. A
>> > Glasflugel ship talks to it's pilot in a thermal. The Hornet and
>> > Mosquito not quite so vociferously as the Libelles, but the Glasflugel
>> > liveliness is still there in those types.
>> >
>> > So there you have it, the LS-4 is crap, Glasflugel's rule!
>> >
>> > Huh? What's that? My meds? Ah, no, not this morning...
>> Personally, I thought the Cygnet P1C was a sharp looking sailplane and
>> may have attracted more interest to the WGC.
>
> I spent a day with the Roberts "working" on the Cygnet. I mostly got in
> their way and broke two bandsaw blades to top it off! The Cygnet was an
> interesting design, but ended up too heavy as I recall. It had a
> fiberglass fuselage shell, with an aluminum internal structure. I don't
> remember how the wings were built.
>
> I wonder where the Cygnet prototype has gone? Did it ever fly after the
> World Class competition?

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